7:00 PM




MEMBERS PRESENT:           Donovan, Lengerman, Peck, Rothhaar, Robert, Zimmer-Janeczko, Dauer, Berthiaume




The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairperson Bruce Peck.




Motion by Donavan, seconded by Lengerman to receive the minutes of the meeting of October 5, 2004 as mailed.  Motion carried.


Call to Audience


Chairperson Peck issued a call to the audience for items not listed on the meeting’s agenda.  There was no response.


Picnic Shelter Fees


In February of 2003 the Commission expressed interest in charging for reservations of picnic shelters in the park system.  Staff developed a recommended schedule for fees and McGuire presented it for consideration as follows:


Emerson A-1                $20.00             Chippewassee                          $20.00

Emerson E                    $20.00             Emerson D                               $40.00

Plymouth B-2               $20.00             Plymouth A (entire shelter)        $50.00

Plymouth B-3               $20.00             Unsheltered Areas                    $10.00

Plymouth A (south)       $20.00             Addition of Canopy                  $20.00

Plymouth A (north)       $20.00             Delivery of picnic tables            $20.00 (up to 10)

Barstow Woods           $20.00             Additional Tables $3.00 each if available

Stratford Woods          $20.00


Charges will be applied to all reservations and there shall be no refunds.


Dauer arrived at 7:05 p.m. Berthiaume arrived at 7:10 p.m.


Chairperson Peck invited public comment.


Peck acknowledged a written comment from Michael McComb opposing the shelter fees.


Doug Hand indicated that shelters had been in the system with no charge for many years and he thought they should remain so.  He favored property taxes to a fee.  He represented the Horseshoe Club and asked that fees be waived for groups assisting the City in recreation programs.


Kathy McCormick, Homer Twp. representing the Artist Guild, supported fee and asked that some money raised be directed to support improved restrooms.


Paula Juardo recommended change in whole shelter rate at Plymouth.  She indicated that fee requires increased maintenance and that the City must maintain the shelter areas.


The Commission then discussed the issue as follows:


Commissioners indicated that study has shown majority of equipment is

pre 1990 and we need to upgrade systems.  The fee system should assist this effort.  Robert suggested that donors of shelters be exempted.


The Commission supported the fee system but expressed concern that the proceeds be used for equipment upgrades.


There was significant discussion about daytime use for school picnics.


Motion by Lengerman, seconded by Robert to recommend to City Council that proposed fee schedule be adopted with the following exceptions:


1)      Entities who have donated shelters be allowed one rent fee use per year in the donated structure.

2)      Daytime reservations Monday – Friday in May and June will be exempted.  Motion carried 8 – 0.


Report on Uses of Current Civic Arena


McGuire presented a report concerning the current Civic Arena and input which had been received to this point.


He indicated the following uses had been proposed:


            Indoor Skatepark.

            Multi-Use Facility for indoor skate park, in-line hockey etc.

            A velodrome.

            Indoor batting cages and baseball/softball practice area.

            An indoor pool facility.

            Indoor facility for sports such as rugby, lacrosse, soccer and/or touch football.

A multi-use recreational facility, including a climbing wall and multi-level playscape.

A facility to be used by Midland Public Schools for use in providing equal opportunity in sports.

            Boat and RV Storage.


McGuire then briefly went through pros and cons of each proposal as well as a sample financial scenario which estimates a need for 2300 hours to be rented at $150.00/hr to support transition capital and operating costs.


The Commission discussed the issue.


There was discussion on the timing and concerns that no groundswell for a specific activity had come forth on the issue.  There was also concern over the costs associated with converting the building to an alternate use.


Peck then asked for public comment.


James Kisler of Gladwin spends four nights per week on Rail Trail and supports the idea of a velodrome.


Molly Muste expressed interest in an indoor velodrome which would bring in many visitors.


The Commission discussed waiting until the end of the year to see if a viable use with appropriate funding presented itself and asked that the item be placed on the January meeting agenda.


Proposal to Vacate Benson St


McGuire presented a map depicting the St. Charles Softball Area and proposed to vacate Benson St. as a first step to integrating the area as a park facility.  The vacation would make it possible to add parking in the area and to better accommodate the Chippewa Trail in the area.


Motion by Rothhaar, seconded by Zimmer-Janeczko to recommend to City Council that Benson St be vacated from St. Charles to Whitman Drive.  Motion carried 8 – 0.


Old Business


Asked staff if the Community Center be approached for financial support of playground equipment in Central Park.


New Business


McGuire announced that he had been notified that Jillian Lincoln is submitting her resignation to City Council due to commitments with school.


Meeting adjourned at 8:10 p.m.


Respectfully submitted,




Marty McGuire