MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE MIDLAND CITY PLANNING
COMMISSION
WHICH TOOK PLACE ON TUESDAY,
AUGUST 14, 2012, 7:00 P.M.,
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, MIDLAND, MICHIGAN
1. Roll Call
PRESENT: Hanna,
Heying, McLaughlin, Mead, Pnacek, Senesac, and Stewart
ABSENT: Tanzini and Young
OTHERS PRESENT: Brad Kaye, Director
of Planning and Community Development, Cheri King, Community Development
Specialist, Cindy Winland, Contract Planner, and 1 other.
2. Approval
of Minutes
Moved by Heying, seconded by Hanna, to approve the minutes of the regular
meeting of July 24, 2012. Motion passed unanimously.
3. Public Hearings
None
4. Old
Business
a. DNO Sign Standards
Cindy Winland presented the proposed
regulations in text format. This is the
same set of text amendments previously discussed, but now shown as they will go
in the Zoning Ordinance. One of the
requests at the last meeting was to show these changes in a graphic
format. A rendering of a multi-façade
structure has been provided to help with the discussion.
The proposed ordinance includes “sandwich
signs” provided they do not include changeable letters and are only displayed
when the business is open. Chalk board
style signs would be permitted. We
currently only allow sandwich signs in the Downtown zoning district.
“Blade signs” that stick out from
the facade wall, often underneath the canopy, are proposed. Each tenant would be permitted one such sign
per street frontage. These signs are
typical of a downtown.
Each tenant could also
have an address, with letters not more than eight inches high. A plaque would also be allowed. Typical contents of the plaque might indicate
the year the building was built, the tenants upstairs, or designate that it was
in memory of someone.
Canopy signs are proposed for each
tenant as well. These signs would be
limited to the vertically facing fringe of the canopy.
Window signs are also permitted per
tenant and could show things like hours of operation, “open” or “closed” signs,
but nothing flashing.
We have two primary kinds of band
signs. One is a banner sign. They cannot be more than 80 percent of the
width of the building sign, nor could the band sign come within two feet of the
end of the façade. In lieu of having a
band sign, they would be allowed to have a wall sign. That could be up to 80 sq. ft. In order to do that, they could not have a
band sign anywhere else.
Marquee signs, as we are considering
them, would be vertical signs protruding from the building façade. These would typically, but not necessarily,
located at the corner of a building. As
proposed, this sign could only be up to 50 percent of the height of the
building but would not be permitted to extend above the parapet of the
building.
Ms. Winland stated that staff would
like to know if we are close enough to put some of these changes into the Zoning
Ordinance.
Mr. Senesac asked
what is the definition of a building façade? We certainly need to define that so people do
not get confused on what is allowed or not.
Mr. Senesac asked if this signage
were applied to the buildings that are in the downtown today, how would this
look? Ms. Winland stated she thinks this
is more signage than is allowed in the Downtown right now. Mr. Senesac is concerned about some of the
ZBA cases, that businesses want more signage, if each of the businesses went
for the maximum signage allowed, how would that affect the downtown area? Ms. Winland indicated that the standards, as
drafted, probably allowed more signage than we would prefer to see on a
building.
Discussion followed concerning
whether or not allowing businesses to select their type of signage would cut
down on the number of and amount of signage.
Mr. Heying stated he would be in favor of offering them the option of
one of three different types of signs.
It would be up to the businesses what kind of sign they would like.
Mr. McLaughlin asked if all these
signs could be 80 sq. ft. Ms. Winland
stated that the signs would be scaled to the size of the building. Mr. Pnacek stated the second story would start
at about 12 feet. Discussion was for
starting a marquee sign at 12 feet above the sidewalk and being allowed to go
to the top of the parapet, provided the 50% of building height standard was
complied with. Mr. Kaye noted that, as
we push these marquee signs up on the buildings, they do not have the same
impact they would have at a lower level.
Mr. Heying suggested they change
paragraph B to state “In addition to the signs permitted in item A. of this section,
up to a total of one sign per building façade area will be permitted according
to the following schedule:” and they could choose from a marquee, a band sign,
or a wall sign. If you choose a band
sign, it cannot be more than 40 sq. ft.
If you are on a corner and have a marquee sign, it can only be so
high.
Ms.
Hanna asked to see the drawings and draft standards again before we go to a
public hearing. Mr. Pnacek would also
like to see the changes one more time before we hold a public hearing. There was general consensus by the Commission
that the draft standards come back one more time before a public hearing is
held.
Commissioners questioned if the “six
second rule” needs to be somewhere in this ordinance. It is already included in the ordinance and
will remain.
Commissioners also suggested that audio
signs need to be prohibited. Ms. Winland
will incorporate it into the general standards and prohibit audible signs.
b. Master Plan Update – Chapter 6: Transportation
Ms. Windland
stated the content of this proposed draft have been reviewed by the city’s
Engineering Department. If there is
something that the Commission really does not want to see in the Master Plan,
staff can take that into consideration.
Ray Senesac stated there did not seem to be many content changes. Staff confirmed that the non-motorized
transportation plan has been incorporated but, other than that, there are no
significant changes. The average daily
traffic volumes and 24 hour counts were questioned as most reflect a decrease
in traffic. The Engineering Department counts
show that there has been a decrease in traffic on most streets. The perception is that there are fewer people
working, more people are working at home and people are making fewer trips
during rush hour.
Ms. Hanna
would like to look at page 6.14. She is
not sure this really needs to be in here.
If it does happen, that would be the time to talk about it. She is not sure why it is in here now.
Mr. Heying stated that on page 6-22, the
third paragraph regarding non-motorized transportation talks about kids walking
or biking to school. With school
consolidations, this is not going to happen as kids now may have to go a mile
or more to school. He did agree that there
are a lot more people biking today.
5.
Public Comments (unrelated to
items on the agenda)
None
6. New
Business
None
7. Communications
Planning and Zoning
News magazines were distributed to Planning Commission members.
8. Report of the Chairperson
None
9. Report
of the Planning Director
a.
Public Hearing
Procedures
Mr. Kaye discussed
the last Planning Commission meeting and how members of the public left
frustrated. Much of the frustration can
be attributed to our current public meeting procedures. Mr. Kaye has spoken with Mr. Branson, City
Attorney, and suggests that a work session with Mr. Branson be held prior to
the next Planning Commission meeting.
Motion by Hanna,
seconded by Pnacek, that we hold a special meeting at 5:30 on August 28, 2012
to discuss meeting procedures.
Motion passed unanimously.
10. Items for Next
Agenda – August 28, 2012
a. Zoning Text Amendment No. 155 – To add a regulation
exempting the setback requirements for an Unobstructed Sight Triangle if the
area within the site triangle is held in different ownership than the principle
parcel and all other setback requirements are met. (public hearing)
b. DNO Sign Standards
11. Adjourn
Adjourned at 8:22 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
C. Bradley Kaye, AICP
Director of Planning and Community Development
MINUTES ARE NOT FINAL UNTIL APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION